Hero Fighter Empire

Forum: HF Discussion

by MangaD at 10-10-2014, 11:42 AM 0 comments

Today I will answer some questions regarding the HF Browser version and provide an alternative way for playing HF.

At this moment, the HF Browser version cannot be played at the Hero Fighter official website. In brief, the HF browser version was being maintained by the Mochi Media company. Mochi Media's parent company, Shanda, dissolved the Mochi Media business effective at 31 March 2014. As such, the browser version's provider is now gone.

There is no official way of playing Hero Fighter in browser, atm. Luckily, I had the .swf of the browser version.
Considering that the browser version is not working and, on top of this, the downloadable version is giving 'false positives' on Chrome, I have made a portable version of the .swf using Adobe Flash Player's standalone projector.

Portable version 0.7: Windows.

Edit: The reason why the downloadable version is giving 'false positives' on Chrome is because of the Hero Fighter toolbar, which is based on the Conduit toolbar. The Conduit toolbar is now considered adware - or advertising-supported software, is any software package which automatically renders advertisements in order to generate revenue for its author. This does not mean that the game is harmful, however, and the installation of the HF toolbar is completely optional.- Virus Total Analysis - About Conduit

Forum: HF Discussion

D5's HF Mechanics Guide

by Dragon5 at 08-10-2014, 10:32 PM 5 comments

Starting off simple, I'm just gonna have a couple of spoilers that detail the inner workings of the game to the best of my knowledge. Expect it to be done as time passes. Pictures to complement them will be inserted later. You can also see my personal thoughts and insight at the end of each section.

Strength (Click to View)

Strength is your damage modifier. The general formula for damage modifications is Base*(Strength/500). However, there are exceptions that will be covered later in this post.
One example: Just because Shawn has higher strength than Gordon does not mean he does more damage. Gordon's base damage is much higher, so the lower strength multiplier still makes him do more damage than Shawn's bow attack.
Clickies: Gordon vs Shawn

However, if the levels between two fighters are not even, the damage will be altered. I do not know how much the damage is multiplied between the differences between levels, but it is pretty steep from just three or four levels.
Clickies: Higher than vs Lower than

UPDATE:
Normalized, your strength is 500. Your attacks will only deal the base amount (which is pretty much how HF was before the level system). Even though you gain a lot more strength in the higher levels, it starts covering the higher amounts of health in these levels. There is a modifier in place to lower damage in case the damage is too much. While beneficial for higher levels to not be as damaging, lower levels still have to face a steep penalty. In Hero Fighter X, there are limiters present to ensure damage wouldn't be too high or too low.

The breakdown of how strength works is extremely complicated. First of all, the HP values displayed on the character list do NOT reflect the actual HP values, and follow the same growth formula as Strength itself. As for Strength itself, the list is accurate to real values. The formula for strength growth and modification is in the code here. My initial theory of levels modifying strength is only the case in HFX. In the PC version, a character's strength is modified in case there is a big enough gap between the two characters' strength values. The damage is slightly lowered if you have twice the strength of your opponent, but the damage takes another HUGE drop if your strength after the first cut is three times greater than your opponent's. This is a little hard to imagine, but this countermeasure only exists to balance out how much damage you'll do to your opponent when they're at an extremely low level. It's still a relatively hefty amount for them to take. Your damage is still lowered if you have less than half of your opponent's strength, which is slightly steeper than having more strength than your opponent.

Honestly though, Marti should have never added in the drastic modifier between levels as that is what ruined story mode. The math he did was impressive, but a lot of numbers going on behind the scenes messes with the player's intuition. There surely had to be a better solution. Anyway, the list of damage for each attack is listed in the other thread.

Guard System (WIP) (Click to View)

MP Mechanics/Regeneration (Click to View)

Damage Scaling (WIP) (Click to View)

Tuning: Hit Stun deterioration (damage and stun will be reduced in high combos, prevent sudden kill in seconds)
This is a very complicated explanation for a common game mechanic in fighting games known as damage scaling. The more hits you do in a combo, the less each hit does. There are also fighting games that lower the time you stay hurt the longer the combo Hero Fighter has a limit. It turns out damage deteriorates at Nirvana's lucky number 150 for most characters (170 for characters like Drew and Gordon). If an attack were to make a combo go over that number, the damage starts to become less. The next hit will do 1/4 damage, and the rest will do 1/10 damage. Keep in mind that it is only possible to do up to 12 hits on the floor, and 10 hits with a juggle; Gordon and Drew have one less hit in both situations. One final thing to note is that combos are counted not on the player, but on the victim, so two people attacking one person would count as one combo.

Here's an example of Livermore's damages from his Hurricane Kick: 45, 45, 45, 23, 11, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5
For a simpler example, here's when Titto spams his attack: 30, 30, 30, 30, 30, 15, 7, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3

Another example with Lucas using the same moves in a different order:
AAAA, Uppercut= 30, 30, 30, 45, 30(60) = 165
Uppercut, AAAA= 60, 30, 30, 30, 22(45) = 172
As stated earlier, any hit that causes the damage to go over 150 is affected by the scaling, so following up with an uppercut after the last hit causes less damage overall.

Damage is reset whenever the opponent flips or gets up. In crazy mode, simply getting up yields no invulnerability for whatever reason, so rolling is always the safest option to go unless your opponent is close enough for you to handspring which also leaves no invulnerability. As for flipping, it creates a risk for followups so careless flipping is punished unlike pre-0.6 where flipping was always the best option because you would take full damage regardless.

Information to be added: How combos can be elongated, more examples

Stamina Findings (Click to View)

Everyone has 500 SP, and uses a double variable (which means it can support a decimal value). The max SP is used in calculation with an exponential function to multiply itself to recover more over time. Obviously, the time exponent resets whenever you do something that drains SP. I believe it was originally 2 SP per frame, and now it's 2.5 which adds up with an exponent based on how long you've been .
Until the exact numbers can be figured out, pre-0.5a's stamina recovery took 250 frames and now it takes 90 (three seconds) frames from 0 to 500 as of 0.70.

st = st + (2.5 + this.st_s * this.st_s / 800);
this.st_s++;

As far as Stamina consumption goes, costs for each action were all generally the same across the cast until 0.5a; the only exception was when you had a giant object. What seemed like characters having high and low amounts of stamina was actually the costs of SP being altered. The intent was to fix the problem of running away, but the numbers pushed mobility to extremes. In fact, Gordon and Titto have the same consumption despite Titto having lower mobility.

Normalized Discussion (Click to View)

Special Thanks:
MangaD- Getting me off my lazy, busy a** and work to finally unravel the complications behind HF and finish HFE.
A special friend- Has covered a few things inside HF that has proved useful for this.

Have a question not covered? Ask, and I'll reply to the best of my ability.

Forum: Stories

Leo's First Battle Against Iczzy

by BlazingGale at 08-10-2014, 07:19 PM 0 comments

Hello guys and welcome to my story series :) In this series I will fill the gaps there are in the story mode... gaps we all probably wan to know what happen'd in them...
Anyways... I hope you will enjoy This story as much as i enjoyed making it :)

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Chapter One: Leo VS Iczzy

Leo readied his sword. He did not move a muscle, And still, His arms and leg's were shaking from stress. He was about to face one of the Big Three Warriors. The three warriors he knew NOTHING about their fighting style.

Iczzy: I can sense that you are a powerful fighter. But are you strong enough?
Leo: Stop this nonsense talk!!! We both know that you aren't here to praise my skill and strength!
Iczzy: Waiting for me to make the first move are you? Listen kid. When you need to fight FIGHT don't talk!
Leo: Look who is talking...
Iczzy: It does not mater for me. I can beat you down to a bloody cockroach in a mater of seconds!
Leo: We will see about that!

Leo started running towards Iczzy ready to swing his sword.
Iczzy: Charge!
All the soldiers started charging at Leo ready to tear him up to shreds. They Surrounded him and all of them got flown back. Leo swung his sword, Powerfully knocking all the soldiers back. He carved his way fro Iczzy's army like he was cutting a rock to tow half's. He passed all the soldiers and started rushing towards Iczzy, Starting his sword rush.
Iczzy's stayed in place and just cast'd an icicle on the ground. The growing icicle clashed with Leo's sword. Leo stopped in his place right that second, As his legs were trapped in solid ice.

Iczzy: See? You cant even power fro a weak icicle! Of curse it isent right to blame you for that when the one who cast'd this icicle was ME"
Leo just smiled as he felt the ice shaking.
Leo: Are you sure about that pal?!
And just as he finished talking his leg burst'd fro the ice, Shattering it into pieces. His kick continued up wards towards Iczzy's Crotch.
But in lightning speed Iczzy spine'd his body And struck'd Leo with his elbow in his belly, Followed by three punches to his chest. Leo had to back off a little bit. He was so dizy that he was barely able to stand without falling to the ground. Iczzy Walked towards him and grasped him below the chin, Lifting him up in the air.
While Leo tried to release him self from Iczzy's grasp, Strange light blue aura started to build it self around Iczzy's hand. When the aura was decent size big, He punched Leo with that hand. As soon as that punch came in touch with Leo ice started to Build it self on Leo's body; It continued to become bigger and bigger and bigger... Until Leo was cover'd in a thick layer of solid ice.

Iczzy slammed Leo to the ground shattering all the ice into shards and releasing Leo from his ice jail... But he wasn't satisfied... Way should he be? He grasped Leo by his shirt and threw him up high to the air. Ad then he crossed his hands forming a X figure
Leo's vision was very blurry... He saw Iczzy's figure so tiny down below him. He saw the light blue energy bursting fro Iczzy's body and transforming into ice. He saw that ice climbing high... High to the sky... High to him. He felt the cold ice striking him and surrounding his body. He saw the 100 same images in different sizes fro the ice, he saw the same sky blurring out as he falls to the ground... He saw the ice shards as he crashed to the ground. He heard foot steps behind him. He saw Iczzy looking at him.. Ant then everything darkened...
And the next thing he remembers... He fights again... But this time he fights to not be a witches puppet...

Forum: Stories

The Legend of the Dragon and Phoenix Lords

by Pete P. at 08-10-2014, 12:42 PM 3 comments

This is a story made by me. Correct me if there are any grammatical errors or whatever. Enjoy and comment!

The Legend of the Dragon and the Phoenix Lords (Click to View)

This story describes the legend of two ancient and sacred fighters. These lords were the protectors of the legendary Dragons and Phoenixes respectively. They were sent from the spirit world to protect the human kind. They were half-immortals and they were gaining their godish magic powers from the life forces of the Dragons and the Phoenixes.

Chapter 1: The two companions

Dragon Lord; protector of the powerful Dragons and champion of the dragon state. Kindled with the holy Dragon blood and master of the secret flame. He could turn into a dragonish creature, equal to an army. His fire energy skills made him one of the most important figures at the first war against Demon Lord Azrael.

Phoenix Lord was protecting the most sacred creature ever lived, the Phoenixes and their energy aura, from which he was gaining his extraordinary powers. He could create firen wings and flame armour magically which also made him one really unique fighter who helped at the first war against the Demons.

Chapter 2: The fallen fighters

The first war between the human and the Demons was a major factor for the spirit world to disdain. The people could not believe that the deities and the spirits weren't helping. This worsened the situation between all states, but especially between the Dragon and the Phoenix state. There were also many many misunderstandings between these two states and the war was getting bigger.

The two Lords wanted the general good, but they had dedicated theirselves to these two states. It was hard for them to communicate as well. The human tried for one last time to actually cooperate and with the help of the two lords, the war came to an end. The war ended finding these two states enemies, as they both wanted to take the credits. The two Lords were influenced by their people and this is when they started to fall.

The feelings of friendship were replaced by anger and this turned into hate. They forgot their pure goals and they started to fight each other. The battle lasted for weeks. On the one, the strength of the Dragon flame was fighting and on the other hand, the sacred power force source of the Phoenixes was fighting back. They burned forests, valleys and villages without even noticing it. When they saw what they did, it was too late. They lost the support of the human and the support of their holy beings that they were protecting. That was the era of the Dragons’ and the Phoenixes’ migration to secret land. That is how they lost their immortality and their powers.

Chapter 3: The secret Legend

By the years the people forgot them and they regarded them as a childish fairytale. Many say that they possibly died. But they Deities saw that their creations had no use to the human, so they took them back to the spirit world.

The Legend says that the Deities gave one last chance to the human. The two lords would return weakened but ready to serve their people and help them. This would take place only if both states together as one would ask for it. That would also be the era of the secret creature return.

Overlord Hunter

Forum: Graphics / Sprites

Blazing Gale's Edits

by BlazingGale at 08-10-2014, 10:00 AM 43 comments

MORE EDITS GUYS :D
More edits will come soon when i will figure out how i can upload more than 40 photos in one thread :) stay tuned :)

New edits [sorta (Click to View)

Denis (Click to View)

Ay Oub (Click to View)

Bill Archer Of The Wind (Click to View)

OverLord Hunter (Click to View)

Charatcers (Click to View)

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